but, as you said, that first debate, i believe that president obama, he was not at his best. the second debate and the third debate, he really showed how presidential he was, and he took control of the topic, and the one everyone talks about was about the benghazi attack, and president obama said it would be the last thing he would do as president and commander in chief is politicize any kind of american death, and the mitt romney reaction to that, it really just showed that he was an amateur when it aimed to dealing with things on a national level like that, so i think that was a definite watershed moment, the second and third debate during the 2012 election. >> thank you for our call. jason, from houston, the republican line. jason, are you there? i think we lost him. -- is on the organ independent line. >> tanks for c-span. i watched the presidential debates for the same reasons i watch c-span. it shows me, and the person, his body language, and it is not filtered through the news media, and i sometimes get a kick of viewing somebody and how it is spun on the national news